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>> and that is all the time we have left this evening. as always, thank you for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. greta is next to go on the report. we will see you hopefully tomorrow night. again a report from watertown. they have a boat with blood on it and they believe someone is in the boat. >> we have a live body in the boat confirmed. >> multiple shots. everybody hold their fire. hold their fire. >> a whole lot of legal questions surrounding the boston marathoning attack and how it will play out. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice. >> the feds filed formal charges against the 19-year-old suspect of the boston terrorism attack. among those were weapons of mass destruction. >> at some point he looks at his
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phone that was held at approximately waist level and may be manipulating the phone. approximately 30 seconds before the first explosion he lifts it to the ear as if he's listening on the cell phones and keeps it there approximately 18 seconds. a few seconds after he finishes the call the large crowd of people around him can be seen reacting to the first explosion. he glances to the east and then calmly but rapidly begins moving to the west, away from the direction of the finish line. he walks away without his knapsack, having left it on the ground where he had been standing. approximately ten seconds later, an explosion occurs in the location where bomber two had placed his knapsack. >> i strongly disagree with the obama administration's decision to rule out enemy combatant status for this suspect at this time. >> when we are moving up to the boat he was actually laying down on one side of the boat.
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one leg out, and one hand out, and when we got closer, that's when he sat up. >> he just sat up. moving about. quite a bit of movement. >> suspect in custody. >> tonight dzhokhar tsarnaev goes to court at his bedside. and there is more. they say he is lucid. adam. >> in the hospital behind me there is significant security not only downstairs but throughout the hospital. the u.s. marshals service has now officially taken over the security situation of him specifically. they have marshalls stationed by his room, in the hallway where he is. all standard procedures when the marshals take control. before the fbi was doing that. marshals will basically be in charge of him until he's well enough to leave here. we are told once that happens he will likely fly out via helicopter to a different hospital.
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it's the best way of taking him to his eventual holding cell, a federal holding cell. and about how that went down today with the arain men in his room. the federal magistrate was there, the public defender was there. he mostly answered with nods. he didn't speak a lot. that could be because there are reports he has an injury to his neck. the fbi also said the head-neck region to his leg and also to his hand. he is obviously still in serious condition. so he answered questions basically by nodding. he also did say one word. when they asked him if he could afford a defense team, said no. that's basically the only words he did say. the judge asked if he understood what was happening. and his miranda rights were read to him. there was reporting if they weren't going to, but they decided to read him his miranda rights and those were given to him today as well. the security here is still very tight. what is interesting is he potentially might get out of the hospital later than many of his victims that are here also recovering. greta. >> adam, in terms of what went
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down before he was mirandized, was he interviewed by the fbi or by anybody in the last couple days since he was taken into custody? and it he give them information that they considered valuable and helpful? >> we learned a couple of things. yes, there were questions asked of him. the first few hours, if not more than that, obvious think they were making sure he survived so you had that situation. he got here friday night in pretty bad condition. he bled for nearly 24 hours and then the fire fight at the boat. the number one priority for them was to make sure he survived so they could get information from him. questions were asked of him before he was mirandized. they haven't said, of course, because it's part of the investigation, they around going to give away what he say. i talked to one law enforcement official that has a little built of concern. and the concern is this, that we are finding more and more about his older brother, who obviously went overseas. there's questions about how he trained and he was somebody who was a manipulative personality.
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withwe are learning how he tookr of his wife, and by some reports pushed her very strongly to convert etch obviously is somebody, as we are hearing reports about his nature you are, was someone who was somewhat aggressive. the worry about a couple law enforcement folks i have spoken to is the younger brother may not have as much information as the older brother would have had. that's something they will learn as we go forward. but now that he's been mirandized, that changes everything as. we. >> adam, thank you. after the fire fight and after running over his brother, he took off. a homeowner sent swarms of police race to go a backyard and suddenly bomber 2, dzhokhar tsarnaev, was surrounded. listen to the dramatic reports leading to his capture. >> a report from watertown of 67 franklin street. they have a boat with blood on it and they believe someone is in the boat.
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shots fired, shots fired! >> shots fired. >> we have multiple shots fired here, okay? everybody hold their fire. >> units, do not return fire. >> trying to poke a hole through the liner of the boat. we have a person in the boat. all units, do not return fire. person in on the boat, trying to poke a hole through the behinder of the boat. we have a person in the boat, a live party who is trying to poke a hole in the boat. maybe he is trying to toss an object out. i live party in the boat. if they're able to successfully rip that off, he'll be fully exposed, okay. >> we have movement in the boat. >> the tie tech camera showing him hiding under a tarp in the boat. tore more on the incredible capture, we are joined by the
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chief. it was a spectacular coordination between the local police, the state and the fbi in terms of a job well done, sir. >> thank you very much. it sure was. >> so tell me, when did your department first get wind that this chase was coming into watertown? >> we were in communication with cambridge, who had some gps device that was giving alerts to where the hijacked car was moving. it was moving from cambridge toward watertown and eventually we were made aware it was on the streets ofwater town. >> so what happened then? >> our first officer observed the carjacker, which was a black s.u.v. in a second vehicle driving in tandem down one of the side streets. a street called laurel street in watertown. the first officer saw them. >>ed back into dispatch that he had them in sight. he was told do not stop that vehicle until we get you some
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significant backup. unfortunately the two brother stopped, got out of the vehicles and immediately started shooting at my lone police officer and the gun fight was on. they brought it to us. >> so then what happened the first -- the first accused bomber, the 26-year-old, he went down first? was he actually cuffed and then was he run over by his brother? >> right. eventually that's exactly what happened, greta. i had six or seven police officers come in right behind our other officer and it was a ten-minute gun battle before that happened. our understanding at least 200 rounds were fired there in a very tight distance on a small side street. five explosive devices were thrown at my police officers. three of them exploded. one of them, my understanding, was very similar to the bomb that went off at the marathon. there was a lot going on and my officers, i couldn't be prouder of them how they stood tall and defended that neighborhood.
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eventually the older brother came out of cover and charged -- came directly at one of my officers shooting at him. >> as i understand, explain it to me, they actually cuffed him and he was down and he was run over. was he moving and did his brother then essentially kill him when he ran over him? >> we're not sure exactly. what happened just before that was the brother, the older brother came at our officer. they were within ten feet of each other, of my officer and exchanging gunfire. then the older brother ran out of ammunition. another officer tackled him, threw him to the ground. two other officers hit him, started to handcuff him. at the same time the brother got in the s.u.v. and came roaring down the street. my officers had trouble hearing that because of so many explosions. somebody was able to get their attention and they dove out of the way just before being run over and killed by the brother. he did, in fact, run his brother over. my underring is he dragged him
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about 40 feet down the street. >> and so then that car disappeared and the next thing you know is he's under a tarp in the back of someone's house. about how far away was that boat parked from where the scene was where his brother was run over? >> right. probably a little over half a mile, greta, from where the original gunfight was. cart was abandoned down there and the boat was about a half-mile distance from there. >> and then so then were you there when they were attempting to take him into custody when they had gotten notice that the boat tarp had been cut and the police had been summoned? were you at the scene? >> well, my officers were the first one to respond. obviously -- i was in the command post with the other agencies, federal and state and watching it on theadown link from the helicopter. >> you know, it's just amazing what you were able to see with the helicopter. it's extraordinary to identify that there was somebody in there. i realize you got a tip from the person who had gone into the house but the thermo imaging,
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it's amazing, isn't it? >> it's great technology. when the president said we were going to get access, we certainly did. they were able to tell there was somebody in there and every time they moved they were able to detect that as well. we knew he was in there, we knew he was moving and obviously he was alive. >> did he fire out at any of the officers? >> the fbi crime scene is still down there processing that. there's a lot of things that happened down there. there was gunfire and we are still waiting for them to conclude before we can see exactly what happened. i haven't been told, you know, what guns, with a bombs were in that boat, if any. we are still trying to piece that together. >> chief, you have to admit it's amazing that he was caught alive. he had shot a police officer and there is so much confusion on the site and you don't know who is firing a gun and what is going on. it's a credit to the police and law enforcement on the scene
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that he was taken alive. it's amazing work, i think. >> i think it's incredible. greta, i have been on the job for 30 years, and for the 24 hours that we were in watertown, i couldn't have been prouder. our law enforcement. we worked so well together. you know, everybody wanted to capture him, but we all worked together to make sure we did it together. >> i know everybody wanted to capture him but the fact was everybody was at risk of getting shot by him. nobody knew what he had. they knew he had had some firepower. it's extraordinary that everybody knew he wanted to kill, that he was certainly knew that, you know, he was on the run. the fact that all the police, youn't killed by the police just out of sort of a natural fear, natural self protection is extraordinary. >> right. we knew he was bleeding. we had saw the blood in the car and we found some blood behind the house, as we did the trail.
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so we knew time was on our side and we could take it slow. that was to our advantage, and we did take advantage of that. >> chief, thank you, sir. >> sure. thank you. >> and tonight there's a new controversy heating up. the obama administration say the tsarnaev will not be treated as an enemy combatant. what does senator lindsay graham think about that? he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thank you? and i understand you wrote the statute. >> right. i have two goals. one is to bring him to justice and that's through federal court. he was never eligible for the tribunal because he's an american citizen, i wrote that law. i want to know what he knows about foreign connects and future plots. now we are down to this. if you don't hold him as en a enemy combatant when you can get him without a lawyer our ability to gather intelligence is limited by what his lawyer will allow him to answer. >> there's two-way you can be an enemy combatant. one is a foreigner of an enemy
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at war with the runs. and another category where you are connected to a foreign group trying to do harm to the united states. you can be taken into the custody by the military for 30 days and questioned and after 30 days you get sent out to the civilian system? >> for in his case he was never eligible for trial by the military. that's different. i'm talking about gathering intelligence. two systems to play, to prosecute for the crimes he committed and to collect intelligence to to protect me and you for future attacks against the nation. >> did he qualify? >> we don't know. it's monday and we caught him friday. the obama doctrine, for four and a half years we called osama bin laden's son-in-law, he wasn't an enemy combatant under the rules. he was a spokesman for 9/11. this president has not identified anyone as an enemy combatant. what does that matter? all the information came from enemy combatant as guantanamo
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bay we interrogated a long period of time. what i want is simplism want to talk to him without a lawyer present to gather intelligence about future attacks that may come our way and none of the information can be used against him in his trial. i'm not worried, a first year law student can convict this guy -- >> with the videotape. >> with a million different things. >> with a million different things. i'm worried about having time with him to establish a rapport and to gather intelligence without his lawyer being present. >> one oddity of the statute, in order to be eligible for what you are saying you have to have some connection to -- >> to al-qaeda. >> how many time do you have to find that? someone doesn't announce i'm al-qaeda. >> this is the way it works. if i were the president of the united states this is what i would do. i would say there's plenty of evidence to suggest this was a radical jihad attack. it was motivated to kill as many americans because of add call jihadist thought. the older brother went to one of
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the most radical areas in chechnya. they have produced more footers for al-qaeda than probably anyplace on the planet except the mideast. i would say at this early stanley we want to know more about what the brother did in this radical part of the world. and i don't believe this guy. he has every reason in the world to deny that he's a low level guy. i want to take time to put the puzzle together. we didn't know three days after 9/11 if lynn laud in was involved. this is a ridiculous concept to have to make this decision within three days. i don't want to use any of the information against him in court. he has every right to not self incriminate when it comes to the criminal process. i want to collect information about future terrorist activity. we have every right to question him apart from the criminal justice system to protect the rest of us. we've been doing that for a decade. >> in other words, want to hold him for 30 days, debrief him and anything he says during the debriefing and he wouldn't have
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a lawyer present, anything he says then could not be used against him? >> i don't want to hold him for more than 30 days but within 30 days he can petition a judge. >> a habeas corpus. >> and say, hey, i'm not an enemy combatant. the government has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he's guilty of the crimes, and to hold him as an enemy combatant, they would have to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that you are tied to al-qaeda or affiliated groups. chechnyan groups are affiliated under our law. >> is it enough he visited chechnya. >> i think so. >> -- for two months for you to view that? >> if i'm the president of the united states, who makes this decision, i would say this is clearly a mass terrorist attack. they were trying to kill as many innocent americans as 'i will. they set bombs in a way to kill as many people as possible. they tried to shoot the cops, they tried to throw bombs out of a car. the older brother was identified as russian intelligence agents
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as a radical islamist and he visit add part of the world that's very dangerous. all that would allow me as president to say i want to find out more in the national security legal system, not the criminal justice legal system. >> the new york times editorial board in part said mr. graham's reckless statements makes a mockery of the superb work that led to his capture. >> they will not defend them. the cops did a great job. >> they did a fantastic job. >> and you know what, the lawyer that's representing hip would do a fantastic job. but if we limit ourselves to gathering intelligence through the criminal justice system and not use the national security system i'm talking about, guess what? no lawyer in their right mind will allow you to talk to their client unless you promise not to seek the death penalty. >> it would being done on plea bargaining. my client will give up x if the -- >> exactly. >> -- if the feds give up the
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death penalty. >> down to the obama administering, we are down to intelligence through plea bargaining. that has never been the car. >> i'll tell you what the problem with that is, the plea bargaining will be done a year from now. >> exactly. >> plea bargaining is not done now, it's done a year from mao. >> i'm worried he may be lying to us. i'm worried the brother, when he went over to the radical part of the world, that we need to look very closely at what this guy knows. he may be lying to us. but i'm worried about next week and the week after, not a year from now. >> senator, nice to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> straight ahead, one accused bomber is dead after a firefight with the police and his brother driving over him and the other accused brother in the hospital and described by a federal magistrate at lucid. now they want to question the wife of tamerlan tsarnaev. what does she know? also a terrorist suspect living right under our noses. did they show any signs of hate america? you will hear from a neighbor
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>> do you know who katheryn russell is? well, she is tamerlan tsarnaev's wife, now widow. federal authorities want to question her about her husband and brother-in-law. did katheryn russell tsarnaev have any clue about the bomb plot? wpri tv reports live in north kingston, rhode island with the latest. what can you tell me about his wife, and where is she? >> well, at this point it looks like she's actually here in north kings town at her family home right now. there's really not much i can tell you about katheryn except what her lawyer is telling us right now and what neighbors are telling us. neighbors have been is what is leading the whole investigation to finding out who katheryn is. we know she went to high school in rhode island. she's a rhode island native. she's been living here her whole life. the last few months or maybe the last year, all the neighbors are saying she's changed a little bit. in high school her friends say that she was outgoing, she was in the art club, wanted to be in
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the peace corps. then one neighbor said the last year she hasn't seen her too much. she converted to islam and hasn't been seen as much in the neighborhood and has been a lot more quiet. that's pretty much what we know of her at this point. we do know that the fbi has definitely trying to get in contact with her for the last few days, though. >> i understand that she -- she claims -- no reason to disbelieve her -- that she works 70 to 830 hours aweek and basically she's the bread winner. i'm not so sure what her husband is up to except maybe no good with a pressure cooker. but she supports him and they have a child, is that right? >> yeah. greta, we are told at this point by her lawyer that they have a two and a half year old child child who is also at this home in north kingston right any. lawyer said she was working 70 to 80 hours a week as a home medical care aid worker. you know, at this point it looks
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like, you know, the lawyer is saying she didn't know anything about this. in fact, during the bombing in boston the lawyer says she was at work and assumed that tamerlan was watching her two and a half-year-old daughter, you know. clearly according to authorities at that point, that's not the case. >> who was watching the child? maybe the plot thickens? is somebody else involved? maybe tamerlan said i'm going to go bomb the marathon, can you watch my child? >> you know, who knows who was watching the child at this point. i'm not sure if the child was duly at this north kings townhome or was up in cambridge where i know they also had an apartment. the lawyer says that they actually lived here the vast majority of the time and also at this north kings townhome i'm told the younger brother, dzhokhar, he would also come on the weekends and spend a lot of time here in speaker when he wasn't as school. >> steve, thank you.
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coming up, do you know what your neighbors are up to? the man living right underneath an accused bomber tells us what he knows about him. he joins us next. also is the threat really over or were the accused boppers linked to foreign terrorists? groups gunning for the u.s. we will talk about that next. fo. c-max one. c-max two. that's a super fuel- efficient hybrid for me. and a long range plug-in hybrid for you. now, let's review. introducing the ford c-max hybrid and the ford c-max energi plug-in hybrid. say hi to the c-max hybrids. even in stupid loud places. to prove it, we set up our call center right here... [ chirp ] all good? [ chirp ] getty up.
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killing and major more and scarring others for life. they were living right in the city for years. a neighbor knows both of the tsarnaev brothers but says it was tamerlan who had something against the american government. they had a heated argument about u.s. foreign policy. nice to see you, sir. >> hey, nice to see you. >> tell me, how did you first meet the two brothers? was it just living in the same building in is that how you knew them? >> i met the older brother two weeks prior into moving into the apartment under them. i met him at a pizza is shop across from my high school. >> what was tamerlan like? >> my first interaction with him was he was sitting at a table at a pizza shop across my high school and he was talking to another kid that used to go to cambridge latin high school. i overheard the conversation and
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he was basically explaining the koran to the person he was sitting with and the differences between the bible and the koran. i noticed in a way he was idolizing the koran and trash talking the bible. i was very interested in the topic and i didn't know much about religion, whether it's christianity or islam, and he seemed like he was very well-educated about both so i wanted to join the argument or the discussion. so, yeah, i basically joined the discussion, which then he -- so then i had a discussion with tamerlan. he was basically -- he was railroad passionate about what he was talking about, which was that the bible was a cheap copy of the koran, and that the american government used the bible as an excuse to invade other countries. then our discussion kind of shifted from religion to foreign policy and the american
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government. his belief on that was that the american government was still a colonial power intended to cool onize the middle east and africa and afghanistan and iraq, most casualties were innocent bystanders gunned down by american soldiers. >> was this discussion before or after he went for six months to russia? >> i believe before because two weeks after words i moved into the apartment and that was only two months ago. >> all right. when you moved into the apartment, did you ever see him bringing pressure cookers in? did you ever talk about bombs or did he talk about any organizations, anything like that? >> no. i only saw him once a week maybe. but they kept to themselves. i see him maybe coming into the apartment or leaving the apartment, sometimes in his car. yeah, we would only talk for a
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minute or less, just say hi, how are you. sometimes he would drive by me in the car and honk and wave. >> did you ever see his wife and child? >> not while i was living there. the first time i met them was on friday when i was at the police station. >> what, the wife and the child? >> yes. the wife and the child. >> did you talk to the wife when you met her at the police station? >> no. she was with two officers and she -- they were bringing her inside the building and outside of the building and i would only see her a couple times. there was an old lady at the police station that she gave her -- she gave the wife her phone because she asked for it. when she came back, the old lady, she mentioned how upset she was, how upset the wife was and that she was crying. >> what was the relationship between the two brothers, the 26-year-old tamerlan and his younger brother? >> like i said, i did not know
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them that well so i couldn't really answer that question. i only met the younger brother once and that was two weeks ago. yeah, i have never seen them together. >> did you think there was anything unusual or peculiar about the younger brother? did he seem hostile toward the u.s. government or towards other people? >> no. and the only time i met the younger brother was, like i said, two weeks ago. all we were talking about was cambridge latin high school, the school he used to attend and he was asking about old friends of his, how they were doing. we did not mention religion. all we were talking about was his social life. >> did the older brother ever mention be longing to any group at all, any foreign group? >> no, he did not. i do remember when we had the argument at the pizza shop. i mentioned how some people, some muslims, radicals, how they would blow themselves up, suicide bombers and do it and
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say they do it for allah. and he said islam is all about peace and love. and he was not one of those stare typical radicals or muslims. >> thank you for joining us. >> no problem. >> tonight they continue to pound the pavement looking for information about tamerlan tsarnaev's trip to chechnya last year. they have ties to the russian republic but the question is are they tied to any terrorists? former u.s. ambassador john bolton joins us. >> good evening. >> how do we determine if there was a tie between them and a foreign terrorist group? what do do you. >> i would go back to the russians who first raised this two years ago and see what they know. the russians and chechnyans have a long mystery of warfare. and recently the chechnyan's
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efforts at independence have got exploited by islamist have recruited them into the ring. it has to do with islamic extremism. with rush huh and the local authorities in chechnya and other sources that we have, this merits a very, very full investigation. >> what is your sort of preliminary impression? they could be part of a group or they could be almost copycats forming their own little cell and doing terrorism on their own. what is your sort of thought as sort of the possibilities here? >> i don't think we know enough at this point. that's one reason why the decision to insert the younger brother into the criminal justice system is such a mistake because if his lawyer does what a typical criminal defense lawyer does, we are never going to hear another thing on this subject from him. so the extent of the connection, were they simply providing money, were they providing direction and control, were they
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providing morale support in the radicalization of these two young men or frankly were they sent over ten years agoos trialed soldiers and simply exploited at the present time? it is all worth checking out and it's gotten harder now that we aren't going to have the opportunity to question the younger brother. >> the gap of information, the gaming gap, what was he doing in russia for six months? we don't know that. >> i think this is a question, when the russian authorities come to us and give us the information, you know, you take it with a certain grain of salt. the russians don't like the chef the chechnyans. i remember hearing how bad certain people thought they were and integrated how they are with the terrorism. but it's a mystery how we missed
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this and didn't exam the brother further then. >> it's a question we will probably find out in days to come. he boarderd a plane so you russians would be following him. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> coming up, liz cheney said the administration was too quick to read the accused bomber his rights. she's here to tell you why next. and more disturbing news, another terror plot uncovered. the latest just two minutes away. we believe it can be the most valuable real estate on earth. ♪ that's why we designed our newest subaru from the back seat forward. introducing the all-new, completely restyled subaru forester. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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unbelievable heroism on the part of the boston police department, on the part of the first responders to catch this guy and bring him in alive. the purpose of having him alive is so you can ask him questions, so you can understand, for example, where was it that they learned to make what appeared to be very complicated detonator devices for the bombs? whereabouts it they received the financing for the bombs? what was the older brother doing in russia? what were their ties to radical islamic jihad? there was a whole host of questions for national security that would be improved if we had answers to. but once again the obama administration really rushed in to let him know he has a right it remain silent and to make sure there was a public defender there. you can be sure now that we won't be able, as you have been discussing, to go the answers to those questions. >> what i thought was interesting, if i understand senator lindsey graham correctly, is what he was proposing is by making him an enemy combatant, that he would
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be turned over to the military to be questioned for a period, 30 days, and whatever he said during that 30 days could not be used against him when he gets turned back over for a federal trial. i think that's what he said. you know, which is different than what i think some people thought he meant originally. but anyway, i also thought it was interesting that the defendant is, according to the magistrate, and we have a copy of the transcript from the court hearing today, is that he is alert, mentally competent, and lucid. they did talk to him a little bit. i guess they might have got some information out of him the last day or so, would you expect? >> you know, i think what we have to do here, greta, as you are pointing out, is to separate the whole notion of what would be admissible in a criminal trial. i think there's very little doubt that he will be found guilty in a criminal trial; that he very likely will receive the death penalty. there's a lot of evidence out there that points toward his conviction. that's not the issue, though. and i think what we are seeing
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is, unfortunately, a pattern with the obama administration. they are very hesitant, you know, we've seen time about time again they come out after an attack like this, after fort hood, for example, after the underwear bomber, after that terrorist attack janet napolitano comes out and says lone actor, lone actor, no connections to international terrorism. there's no way they know that and there's a lot of evidence that points in the opposite direction. they seem very hesitant to assert or even frankly investigate any ties to islamic jihad. they don't want to talk about islamic jihad. and when you face the fact that that is, you know, the world that we live in, there is a war underway, we are, frankly, being attacked by islamic jihadist, when you have a government that instead wants to immediately put everybody into the criminal justice system and stop asking questions, i think it raises a real concern. >> liz, thank you. i agree, he's probably going to get convict the. when you commit a crime on tape
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>> tamerlan tsarnaev caused a disturbance at a cambridge mosque. was it a red flag he had become a violent radical? >> greta, this is the mosque in cambridge where the suspects came, suspect number 1 tamerlan regularly attended friday's prayers and his younger brother came at least once. we now know religion played a big part in his life. apparently three months ago tamerlan got very upset when his mom compared martin luther king, jr. to the prophet muhammad. >> it happened on the 18th of january. it was close to martin luther king's day. i believe it was also close to the occasion of the birthday of
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the prophet muhammad, according to the islamic calendar. so, you know, the theme of the sermon was about great men like dr. martin luther king, like the prophet and what drove them, their sense of mission. and what we can learn from their lives and how we can be inspired by those examples. so when the person that was giving the sermon started talking about dr. martin luther king, this man got up and objected. raised his voice, which is against the etiquette of the sermon. and people objected to it. some people might have even asked him to leave, you know, the mosque if he didn't like what he was hearing. you know, after he -- we're not sure if he left, but after the incident people sat down with him and explained to him, and he seemed to understand. and nothing happened after that.
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he did, you know, come to the mosque, you know, on friday. not every friday but he was here. he continued to come even after the incident. some people said that he said something to the effect that you cannot compare or make a parallel between a prophet is a a -- and a non-mormon. some said he was giving the sermon as a hip crist there was one incident prior to that when the same person was delivering the sermon. but it wasn't as, you know, like the second one. the person was talking about something he didn't approve of and then he spoke to the person after, you know, after the prayer had concluded. >> did he bring his brother to the sermons with him, his younger brother?
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>> from what i have been told, that his brother, for friday prayers, apparently people have mentioned that he only came once. >> did his wife ever come? >> i am not sure about that. when the younger brother was still, you know, hold up in that boat, people here in this mosque even offered to the fbi that we could go and help, see if we could talk him into surrendering peacefully. >> coming up, a welcome surprise for the people of boston. you have to see who showed up to help the city. that's next. flying is old hat for business travelers.
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